Welcome to the global phenomenon, Surviving the Survivor, where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host, Emmy Award-winning journalist Joel Waldman.

What's up, SCS Nation?

Welcome to another episode of Surviving the Survivor.

It is the podcast that promises to bring you the very best guests in all of true crime, sometimes the best

guests on two shows in a row because they are that good. And of course, you've got tonight

right out of the gates. You know both of these people. famed Tallahassee criminal defense attorney

are, as in the letter R also oh you are timothy jansen

one of the finest gentlemen you will ever meet a true southern gentleman who's actually

from the midwest originally and uh practicing law in tallahassee is a law firm named law

firm of the year in 2024 no surprise there surprise there. Tim is also a former federal

prosecutor. And then you've got the professor. Look at this. Already making excuses from true

crime talk. That would be the COE. That is our new channel. Tim is going to be appearing on there

at some point. Who knows, maybe he and Joe will do a show together. We never channel. Tim is going to be appearing on there at some point.

Who knows, maybe he and Joe will do a show together.

We never know.

Tim wants to do a cook.

Yeah, Tim's going to do a cooking show while talking true crime, which I feel like that is bound to be the next like survivor.

That the thing is going to be like on CBS prime time you imagine that

Tim Jansen's going to sign a hundred and fifty million dollar five-year contract and it'll all be

Tim you better not forget about me when you uh when you do that thank you for a maususman

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