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Music. Hello and welcome back to the Bodies Behind the Bus podcast.

Today we are joined by a special guest, one that we love that you have heard from before,

who is also a board member, attorney Robert Callahan, who is also an author, which is super exciting.

We're super pumped about this book. I got to read an advanced copy. It's amazing. It is

called Fire in the Hole, not a half, but a hole with a W. And I want to give you a chance to just

talk a little bit about what this book is about. And we'll put the links in our show notes for you

guys to go pre-order it. And I highly recommend So Robert, welcome. And will you tell us a little bit about your book that's coming out? Well, first of all, thank you for having me on the show. It's my honor to be here. And thank you very much for mentioning the book. As you mentioned, it's called Fire and the Whole W-H-O-L-E. And the subtitle is embracing our righteous anger with white Christianity and reclaiming our wholeness.

And this is really born from my observation of the, we can call it the evangelical church,

but I think it actually goes further than that, which is why the title is titled the way it is.

The complicity that the

church has had with racism, LGBTQ discrimination, patriarchy, all these different things. And if you

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