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THE OFFICIAL MEA CULPA WITH MICHAEL COHEN ARCHIVE

Breaking!!! Did Trump Blackmail Kevin McCarthy + A Conversation with Stuart Stevens.

THE OFFICIAL MEA CULPA WITH MICHAEL COHEN ARCHIVE

Audio Up Media

Politics, News

4.78.8K Ratings

🗓️ 29 January 2026

⏱️ 89 minutes

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Summary

The fallout from the Kevin McCarthy tapes keeps coming. While new texts released by the Jan 6th Committee show the extent to which GOP lawmakers stoked the Insurrection. Lincoln Project advisor Stuart Stevens joins Mea Culpa to say where the GOP bodies are really buried. 

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0:00.0

This is my maya-a-ha-ha-ha-a-ma-a-cobo.

0:09.0

Oh, baby, don't laugh for me.

0:12.0

If I tell you my story, don't cry for me.

0:15.0

I did my time that's fun by me.

0:18.0

This is my mea-a-co. This is Michael Mayor Copa.

0:26.6

This is Michael Cohen, and you're listening to the Mayor Culper podcast. If there's one thing that the Kevin McCarthy tapes reveal is that for the briefest of moments, the minority leader was in possession of a conscious and moral compass.

0:37.9

Like the rest of Congress, he was fucking outraged at the events that transpired on January 6th,

0:44.6

and the tapes reveal a GOP leader wrestling with the consequences of what Donald Trump

0:50.7

and the more extremist elements of his party had wrought.

0:57.0

It's too high. The country is too crazy. I don't want to look back and think we caused something or we missed something and someone got hurt.

1:04.0

I don't want to play politics with any of that.

1:07.0

So what the fuck happened?

1:09.0

The Washington Post Philip B, asked the same question.

1:12.7

Was it that McCarthy heard from his caucus or saw from polling that Republican voters were far less concerned than he was about the direction American politics was heading?

1:24.0

That Trump, briefly a near universal pariah, recovered quickly with the base?

1:30.3

Was it the same rationalization McCarthy had made so many times before since Donald Trump arrived on the scene,

1:37.3

that it was easier to let things get a little bit worse than to expend the political capital to make them a whole lot better? Within a week of the riot,

1:46.8

the House was moving forward with an impeachment of Trump for his role in the riot. McCarthy,

1:53.1

who joined the majority of his caucus in supporting challenges to state election results in the

1:59.1

hours after the riot, again publicly joined with House Republicans in opposing the effort.

2:05.6

His argument, that holding Trump accountable was itself a threat to political order.

2:11.6

I believe impeaching the president in such a short time frame would be a mistake.

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