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Welcome to Office Hours, I'm David Melzer,

and we get so many different legends

of so many different industries, careers, and jobs.

This is one of my favorite Hall of Famer on here and I'm blessed to be someone who

marketed the Pro Football Hall Fame. Probably working with Lee Steinberg has had more

people inducted into the Hall of Fame and the very first time that I went to the Hall of Fame with Lee Steinberg

I said I want to sit with he said what Hall of Fame or do you want to sit with I said I want to sit with

Linda Coe and there we were I'm not sure she remembers it was so

long ago and I was more excited more excited than Warren Moon Troy Eichmann and

Steve Young and all the rest of the fellows. I was just so blown away because one thing in my family,

my mom always reminds me, you know, David, in 1974 women couldn't apply for credit cards.

And 19, you couldn't even apply for credit cards. And I want you to remember how much you need to

unlearn, because I know I have three daughters. She said I know you have

good intentions but you just have to be open-minded to unlearn things and one of the things

I had to learn was first my grandfather was a sports nut I

wanted to make him proud I wanted to play sports in college but I remember the first time

in 1987 when I came home from college and my grandfather was like can you believe this?

There's a woman on ESPN.

There's a woman in sports, anchoring.

What does she know about sports?

And that was the beginning of my unlearning of, well, it's not really complicated.

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