Breakfast with Putin (with Michael McFaul)
Stay Tuned with Preet
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4.8 • 32.4K Ratings
🗓️ 5 April 2018
⏱️ 53 minutes
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| 0:55.9 | From Cafe and WNYC Studios, welcome to Stay Tuned. I'm Pete Barara. |
| 1:02.9 | I was in the room with Medvedev in his meetings with Obama. I was in the room with Putin in |
| 1:10.3 | his meetings with Obama. And there was a difference in the way that those two Russian leaders |
| 1:16.5 | saw the world. That's Michael McFall, who was in the room where it happened. He was the |
| 1:24.9 | US ambassador to Russia during the Obama administration. I speak to him this week about who holds |
| 1:29.5 | power in Russia, the tit for tat diplomatic expulsions, and what it's like to have breakfast |
| 1:34.9 | with Vladimir Putin. Turns out it involves a lot of caviar. That's coming up. But first, |
| 1:41.2 | let's get to your questions. |
| 1:42.2 | Hi, Pete. This is Patrick Kronin, calling from Springfield, Virginia. My question is, |
| 1:48.1 | today I saw the Donald Trump who's going after Jeff Bezos' business. He's using the |
| 1:54.3 | post office to try to cut off access to cheap delivery services because of a story that |
| 2:02.5 | appeared in the Washington Post. Is it this behavior of going at using the government to |
| 2:08.9 | go after somebody you perceive as an enemy? Very similar to what Nixon had done. |
| 2:14.1 | Thanks for your question, Patrick. I don't know if it's similar to what Nixon did, largely |
| 2:18.9 | what Nixon did, the biases he had, and the enemies he sought to punish, he did that quietly |
| 2:25.8 | behind closed doors. So I don't know if it's better or worse, the Donald Trump does it |
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