This is Leslie Kane and you're listening to That UFO Podcast.

Hi everyone and welcome back to that UFO Podcast.

My name is Andy and I am joined by Dan for what would be a breakdown of some sort of

breaking news but I think something Dan that was very much worth discussing so

hello hello I was just saying to you before we started this that whenever we record another breakdown,

once we're like, yeah, we're wrapped, that's it, there's not much new news in the next 24 hours,

something big seems to happen. So here we are for 2.0 this week.

Yes, I mean for some people this will be the third time we've been visiting their ears

depending on how they consume the content. So thank you to those who have chimed in but this is one of those

Dan that is definitely I think worth discussing on its own we could have

probably brought in a few other news items but we'll keep those maybe for

next week that are kind of smaller comments and quotes on different stuff.

But I'm going to try and say this properly like we've said before recording Dan and I posted on

socials. I really want to call this something else just because of what it is, but like I think you

have mentioned really fairly to me again before we hit record. There's a reason for this. But anyway, what I'm talking about is Michael

Schelenburg, who is a journalist author and professor has an article out and he's commented on the UFO topic for quite a while now. You've seen a lot of his posts particularly if you're on X or

Twitter I'm saying the same name twice yeah if you're on Twitter he comments on a lot

of stuff on there but yeah he's basically published an article on public is the name of the forum public

public dot news. Public dot news wonderful. I'll put the link in the description

but Michael Shelberger is this journalist and the big headline

here Dan really really quick summarisation before we get into the details is Immaculate Constellation.

Now if I see Immaculate Conception folks, I think I'm just used to the whole

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