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Hello! R.B. UK. Worst teeth. Better accents. Hello and welcome to the Big Red Barrel UK podcast. Episode 268.

Point five. Yes, that's right. It's a bonus episode. It's a bough no episode. And I am Coleman.

Hi. And that means we've got another interview for you. In fact, we got a couple of chaps on for an interview. So Mr. Timothy

Kenneth James Hibbs will be interviewing people, such as Sam Watts from Make Real, those folks

behind Radio G and Lococo Dojo. You may remember him. He's been on the show a bunch of times

now.

And also, John Hibbons from Sightec Games, those behind the excellent Winlands and Crystal Rift. I believe it's Winlands too coming very soon as well. Maybe they'll talk about it. John's also been on the show before. He was on our EGX podcast a year ago, I believe. So, without further ado, you're going to hear a little noise, you're going to hear a Tim, you're going to hear a time, you're going to hear a job. It's going to be really good. But that does mean they'll be talking a lot about VR. And if you know, if you're a regular listen to this show, you're going to know that Tim talks a lot about VR to the point where you may fancy smashing your head in against a desk several times

what, well, sorry, that's just my editing process. Anyway, yeah, you might be a bit of sick of

this show and you know, you may read online, hey, VR's dead or something like that. It's not. It's

not. And this is a genuinely very interesting interview. I've listened through it already. I've done,

I've done all the editing work. I've made it even more listenable than it previously was. So you should listen to it,

if not just to pay off for my hard work. But no, this is really good. You should give it a listen,

which you can do so after this, hear noise. Go!

This is a slightly unusual podcast. You won't have heard me on our normal podcast this week. Mr. Coleman and Dan did a fine job of filling in and taking you through the week's news, of which there'd been a bit. But I was absent because I was at Develop VR this week, having a look at some VR games and catching up with some VR tech and stuff and some talks.

And yeah, I've managed to corner a couple of the people that are friends of the show that we

ran into again there, basically. So yeah, we decided to record a little special podcast kind

of covering that and diving into their games. Bit of a VR special. So if you're not interested

in VR, you might want to run away now. But if you are interested in VR, this should be a pretty interesting episode. And returning to the show is Mr. Sam Watts. Hello, good evening. And if you don't like VR, hopefully we can ensure that you will do by the end of this show. Yeah, encourage you to do so. Yeah, let's go with that. And we also have Mr. John Hiddens.

Hello. Hello. VR's all right. Yeah. It's quite cool. Well, I think my normal co-host kind of

discourage me from talking about VR kind of. I discourage is the wrong word. Deerail me from

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