life is actually through an experience of death and the people who are willing to do that.

Like you said, in the hero's journey, like over and over and over again and to stand in their

own integrity without like really it's, you know, again, sort of the a different way to say it

from what we've been talking about is it like you've got nothing to prove when you realize that

all of life is a gift. The whole thing nature operates on gift. You've been giving gifts to give

and when you don't give those, you're sort of constructing that flow. All things that you need

or gifted toward you also and when you realize that you live in a universe that's built on gift,

you don't really have anything to prove. You get to just live a life of a liveness,

enjoy and connection and peace that's very different than if you just keep scrambling and

crawling your way to avoid the pain and darkness and shadow side of all the things that make you feel

like you have absolutely anything to prove in this world.

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Randy, welcome to the unmistakable creative. Thanks so much for taking the time to join us.

Thank you so much for having me. It's such an honor.

Yeah, it is my pleasure to have you here. So I found out about you because you wrote in and I

remember, as we were just talking about before here record, looking at your trailer and thinking,

okay, there's something about this that I can't quite explain that makes me want to talk to you,

but then I was just listening to the early part of one of your episodes with their freestyle

wrapper and I thought to myself, if there's somebody who can figure out how to

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