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🗓️ 10 September 2025
⏱️ 14 minutes
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| 0:15.7 | You're listening to Shortwave from NPR. |
| 0:20.6 | Hey, Shortwaivers, Emily Kwong here. |
| 0:22.8 | If you're listening to this, you know this podcast has to travel through your ears to get |
| 0:27.2 | to your brain. |
| 0:28.1 | But why not take a more direct route, say from the internet straight to your neurons? |
| 0:33.2 | That's basically what we're talking about today, brain computer interfaces with NPR's |
| 0:37.3 | own neuromancer, John Hamilton. |
| 0:40.0 | Hi, John. |
| 0:40.7 | Hey, Emily. |
| 0:41.5 | Happy to be part of today's consensual hallucination, as William Gibson would put it. |
| 0:46.9 | And with that, I guess we should probably stop with the dystopian sci-fi references. |
| 0:50.9 | Let's keep them coming, John. |
| 0:52.1 | I mean, Elon Musk is out here talking about |
| 0:54.8 | using a brain computer interface, a BCI, to connect us all to cyberspace, right? I mean, he has |
| 0:59.9 | mentioned that. And his company, Neurrelink, has surgically implanted its brain computer interfaces, |
| 1:05.6 | which we will call BSIs for short, in a whole bunch of people. Oh, and the neuralink device, it's called telepathy. |
| 1:13.4 | So I'm right. The future is here. |
| 1:16.1 | You are certainly right about what one tech billionaire is saying, but I am here to tell you that these interfaces are still a long way from putting our brain cells online. |
| 1:26.2 | What they can do is pretty amazing. |
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