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'Interstellar': Time Dilation And Wormholes Explained

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🗓️ 9 September 2025

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

Christopher Nolan’s Interstellar was a phenomenon in 2014. Set in the future, Earth has been struck by a global crop blight. Former NASA pilot Cooper (Matthew McConaughey) is pulled into a NASA mission to transport the human race to a new planet, via wormhole. Back on Earth, Cooper’s daughter, Murph (Jessica Chastain), attempts to complete an equation that will allow this mass-transport of humanity from Earth. 


Many scientists praised the film, particularly for its depiction of black holes. In this episode co-hosts Regina G. Barber and Emily Kwong talk about Interstellar with Star Trek scientific advisor and astrophysicist Erin Macdonald. They walk through wormholes, black holes and all the ways space-time stretches in the film. 


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0:16.9

This episode contains spoilers to Interstellar, a film that came out over a decade ago.

0:22.0

You've been warned.

0:23.6

You're listening to Shortwave from NPR.

0:28.9

Hey, Short Waver is Regina Barber here.

0:30.9

And Emily Kwong, and about a month ago, I asked Gina what I thought was an innocent question.

0:35.5

Simply, have you seen interstellar?

0:39.7

We must confront the reality of interstellar travel.

0:47.4

The movie about a dying Earth and NASA's plan to find humanity a new home in another galaxy.

0:52.7

This Christopher Nolan movie has haunted the astrophysics field for the past decade.

0:56.5

Yeah.

0:57.0

The tiniest synopsis I can give of Interstellar is that Christopher Nolan learned about relativity.

1:05.1

That is Aaron McDonald.

1:06.3

She's an astrophysicist who has studied space time and how it bends.

1:09.9

Now, Aaron is the official scientific

1:11.9

advisor for the Star Trek franchise. Dream job. So she knows a thing or two about movie representations

1:17.3

of physics. Yeah. And Gina, until recently, I had no idea this was a Christopher Nolan movie and

1:22.8

that he and his brother, Jonathan Nolan, consulted with astrophysicist Kip Thorne, who was an executive producer

1:30.2

on the movie. Yeah, Kip Thorne, like he's a big deal in the field. He contributed to the

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