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🗓️ 12 September 2025
⏱️ 14 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Support for NPR comes from NPR member stations and Eric and Wendy Schmidt through the Schmidt Family Foundation, working toward a healthy, resilient, secure world for all. |
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| 0:20.7 | The planet Mars has stirred the imagination of scientists and space enthusiast for hundreds of years. |
| 0:27.4 | So Mars has blue sunsets because of the difference in atmospheres and the amount of dust and things like that. |
| 0:35.5 | Although Mars doesn't have those sandstorms from the Martian, it has really cool dust devils. |
| 0:40.9 | That's Hamani Kalucha. She's a planetary scientist who recently completed her PhD at Caltech. |
| 0:46.3 | And she spent a lot of time thinking about Mars. |
| 0:49.1 | You could think of like the American Southwest as a good analog. Like if you were to walk through Utah, that really |
| 0:56.6 | reminds me of what we see from the rover and what it would feel like to walk around Mars. |
| 1:02.3 | Occasionally in the distance, you would see these giant volcanoes, like bigger than the size |
| 1:06.9 | of Mount Everest. Many people, including Hamani, have wondered, was there life on Mars? And the more |
| 1:13.8 | Mars has studied, the closer scientists get to answering that question. The more we learn about |
| 1:19.2 | Mars through all of the rovers, the more it seems like ancient Earth. It had these fantastic, |
| 1:25.8 | big rivers flowing and big deltas flowing and lakes just like Earth that |
| 1:31.6 | were really big. And it was this wonderfully wet and alive world. Using the Perseverance rover, |
| 1:38.5 | Hamani studies the Martian surface, looking for evidence of ancient life, anything that might |
| 1:44.0 | have lived in those rivers and |
| 1:45.2 | deltas billions of years ago. |
| 1:47.0 | Mars looks very different now. |
| 1:49.0 | Whenever we get pictures back from the rover, it's always this red-hued layer of dust that's |
| 1:56.0 | on all these rocks. |
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