This is CBSI in the world.

I'm John Batchew with Brad Wilson.

Professor has done me the favor of reading two very challenging books

and summarizing them in an essay at Civitas Outlook for Civitas Institute, University of Texas.

One in favor of the Constitution as it stands just needs to be tweaked a little bit.

They have puffed up.

We need to return to the Golden Days.

That's the Oval Levine.

And Professor Charmerinsky, who is the dean of the Berkeley Law School,

the distinguished scholarly plays.

However, the professor does us the favor of not only reading the books,

but coming up with suggestions to both

authors. Let's start with you of Al-Levin, because I misread his understanding of Congress.

Well, he seems to emphasize government. That's my reading of your essay.

Well, his whole book really is focused on government, not what happens in the private sector.

He has very little to say about the associational life of Americans, which, as you know,

Alexis de Tocqueville described so well back in the 1830s.

He'd never seen anything like it, the busyness of Americans

in their private associations and how they work together to govern themselves without the

interference of the state. So he says very little about that. He's focused on national institutions

primarily and then federalism at a later point in the book.

The centrality of Congress is his phrase, and he's talking about just the national government there.

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