From the historic campus of Hillsdale College in Hillsdale, Michigan, where the good, the true, and the beautiful are taught, nurtured, and honored, this is the Radio Free Hillsdale Hour, bringing the activity and education of the college to listeners across the country.

People are less happy today when they were 30, 40 years ago.

What's interesting about this is that both in the Gallup data and then also in the GSS data,

we're seeing a lot of evidence indicating that marriage is either the number one factor in this or, you know, or one of the top factors.

This is your host, Scott Bertram. Welcome to the Radio Free Hillsdale Hour, part of the Hillsdale College podcast network.

That was Brad Wilcox, author of the new book, Get Married, Why Americans Must Defy the Elites, Forge forge strong families, and save civilization. We'll talk

in depth with Brad about his book in just a little bit. Up first, we're joined by Dr. Justin Jackson.

He is chairman and professor of English at Hillsdale College, and also your teacher for the new

Hillsdale College online course, The Exodus Story. Dr. Jackson, thanks for joining us.

Oh, it's great to be here, Scott.

Happy to have you back and we'll tell them, help people right up front if they're interested

in the new course. Well, go to hillsdale.edu slash new course, C-O-U-R-S-E to find out more

about the Exodus story, and we're going to talk about that now.

You are an English professor teaching about Exodus.

How do you think your approach as an English professor would be different from that of a professor of religion?

Sure.

I don't know that it's a difference of discipline.

It's probably a difference in my own disposition.

I'm pretty well trained in theological traditions.

I teach for my diocese, dogmatic theology.

But it's my own, having that literary bent, I find beautiful, wondrous, theological

things that just seem to crop up when we actually pay attention to the words in the

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