Hello and welcome to the political orphanage, a show for plucky misfits and pithy problem solvers.

I'm Andrew Heaton and gang, I am feeling a little bit wounded today.

I've been holding out that Joe Biden would invite me to be his running mate,

which would have been a lot of fun. But no dice. Tuesday, he picked Senator Kamala Harris as his VE pick.

So today we are going to explore the other half

of the 2020 Democratic ticket.

And to do so, I am joined by an analyst par excellence, Justin Robert Young,

host of politics, politics, politics, and night attack.

We're going to do today's show in two parts.

Part one.

Justin invites me on his show and we discuss how Kamala Harris is apt to shake up the

20 election. We talk about the electoral implications of Kamala Harris.

Then, while you're listening to a commercial, go to Patreon.com slash Andrew Heaton to support

the show, I'm going to go down an entire pot of black coffee and feverishly research her

policy history.

So that, in part two, Justin returns to my show and we discuss what Kamala Harris is all about. Is she a criminal justice

reformer or a law and order zealot? Is she a flexible pragmatist or a Progressive Firebrand, a Metso soprano or an alto.

Get ready to know your VEP. Candidate.

Andrew. candidate. otherwise I'm fine how are you Justin? Oh excellent, excellent.

Kamala Harris.

Now this is a pick that a lot of people including me saw coming from a mile away for a bunch of

reasons but what are your what are your first takeaways from it? You know I

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