Bots, Grifters, and Rage: How Extremists Are Hijacking Conservatism | Karys Rhea
Hold These Truths with Dan Crenshaw
Dan Crenshaw
4.6 • 16K Ratings
🗓️ 15 January 2026
⏱️ 38 minutes
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Summary
Political commentator Karys Rhea joins Rep. Crenshaw to break down how bots, rage-bait economics, and ideological grifting are fueling extremism in the conservative movement. They discuss the crucial difference between gatekeeping and cancel culture. And they examine how a small but loud and angry fringe movement can distort an entire political ecosystem.
Karys Rhea is an American political commentator and former producer at the Epoch Times and Newsmax. She is a writing fellow with the Middle East Forum, ambassador at Israel365 Action, and rising leader at the Global Liberty Institute. Find her on X at @RheaKarys.
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| 0:00.0 | We hold these truths to be self-evident. That all men are created. As a member of Congress, I get to have a lot of really interesting people in the office. Experts on what they're talking about. This is the podcast for insights into the issues. China, bioterrorism, Medicare for all, in-depth discussions. Breaking it down into simple terms. We hold. We hold these truths. We hold these truths. With Dan Crenshaw. The angle has landed. Welcome back. Everybody to hold these truths. Today we have joining us, Karras. Rayath, thanks for being on. Pleasure to be here with you. Thank you. So a little bit about Karras, American political commentator, previously worked out the Epoch Times and Newsmax, right? |
| 0:39.2 | And writing a book on how right-wing ideitarianism is fracturing the MAGA movement. |
| 0:45.9 | And you've argued since 2022 that there's a woke right that has emerged, mirroring the tactics of the woke left. |
| 0:54.8 | I would argue also mirroring the kind of brain circuitry of the woke left. |
| 1:01.1 | I like to claim that I came up with that term. |
| 1:04.4 | Because I started to start it around since I'm glad it took off. |
| 1:08.0 | I don't know if it's true or not. |
| 1:09.5 | I think we all just made all the smart people just settled in on like the right term at the same time. I think we all think that we came up with it because I thought I came up with it. I think Catherine Brodsky thinks she came up with it. James Lindsay thinks he came up with it. It was all around the same time. Right. I think we all just had the same thought. We wrote it on a napkin and then we realized that we were all thinking the same thing and had the same idea. |
| 1:29.3 | That's fair. |
| 1:30.8 | I have no proof that I was the first, so I cannot actually claim it. |
| 1:35.9 | All right. |
| 1:37.2 | So, I mean, let's actually start there with what we've done. |
| 1:42.0 | So we can get into questions, but I'm going to say what what I think about the woke right. I don't want to hear what you, what you say? I mean, when people ask you, what do you mean by that? I'm like, look, the woke right, the woke left, they wear different colored jerseys. One's red, one's blue. And they do hate each other. Don't get me wrong. |
| 2:01.6 | It's not like they're in the hood secretly, but they think the same. |
| 2:05.6 | And I have a pretty solid list, I wish I had it written down in front of me, but it's a good list of |
| 2:10.6 | psychological traits that are similar between the two. |
| 2:15.6 | One is emotional reasoning as opposed to, you know, using your brain to reason, |
| 2:21.3 | using logic to reason, using emotion to reason. |
| 2:25.3 | A really important one I think a lot of people miss is single variable analysis. |
| 2:30.3 | So single variable causality. |
| 2:33.3 | There's a problem here. |
| 2:34.6 | It must be due to this one simple thing. |
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