I think both the U.S. and Israel are delusional about the long term.

It's true in the short term.

They can kill a lot of people, kick the shit out of a lot of people.

And the U.S. Israeli alliance has been nonstop war.

The best way to understand Netanyahu is very simple, in my view, which is that his political

movement, the Lakoud, is based on one idea, never a Palestinian state, and therefore Israeli control permanently over the land from the river

to the sea. And that actually is the charter of the Lakut from the very start.

Hello everybody and welcome back to another episode of the Magistice Street podcast. Today, we're very happy to have with us a guest that really doesn't need much of an introduction, Professor Jeffrey Sachs, who's a world-renowned economics professor, best-selling author and a global leader in sustainable development and

really geopolitics as well. Professor Sachs is a director at the center of the sustainable development

at Columbia University, where he holds the rank of university professor, the university's highest

academic rank. He had been at Harvard before that for many years. He's served as advisor to numerous UN Secretary General's.

We're very happy to have him with join us today.

Thank you very much, Jeff, for joining us on the Michael C.Sie Street podcast.

We're honored to have you.

I just want to come straight.

My pleasure.

Thanks.

We just wanted to go straight, start with the kind of the global developments and then talk more

about what's going on in the region here.

In a recent article, you actually thought you say, and I want to quote you, you say the

recent BRIC summit in Kazan Russia marks the end of the new account delusions, and that since the

1990s the goal of American foreign policy has been primacy,

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