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I don't know what that means. It was funny. So as we're talking about various times throughout the show, if you're really going to evaluate the news the day the colon trial doesn't even finish in the top three behind North Korea, uh, nooks and India Pakistan.

I would agree. And Mike Lyons, longtime CBS News military analyst joins us now to talk about those two nuclear situations. Mike, how are you, sir?

Hey, good morning, guys. Good to be back with you. Thank you. Why don't we begin with the, I almost said tensions. They're shooting at each other. The violence between Indian Pakistan and what it all means.

Yeah, it's kind of back to the future. This is a country that they fight over this region called Kashmir to the north of India to the east of Pakistan. And since India had its independence in 1947, as well as when Pakistan was established, it's been an area that both countries have tried to take claim over and there've been three or four skirmishes there before each time. No Pakistan comes down on the losing side. And in some cases, there are clearly the loser. And so they lose the national

threat. Pride over that. And in this case, now that's why with Pakistan shooting down Indian aircraft and capturing an Indian pilot, like they did, uh, they appear to be now, you know, trying to up their game right now. It just now to these two leaders as to whether or not where the situation goes from here. Yeah, I was, I somehow I got sucked into a Twitter feed. I just started following different people. And it was it was people who live in Indian Pakistan, but tweet in English, I guess. And man, there's a lot of just regular people that were really proud of their country. And we're gonna be able to do this. And I'm sure you guys are going to be able to do this. And I'm sure we're gonna be able to do this. And I'm sure we're gonna be able to do this. And I'm sure we're gonna be able to do this. And I'm sure we're gonna be able to do this. And I'm sure we're gonna be able to do this. And

I'm wanting to go to battle. I don't know. I don't know how many people feel that way, but it was, it was a little, it was a little troubling. Yeah, exactly. And that's because again, I guess the last one, 1999, significant conflict. The Pakistanis lost about 4,000, 5,000 soldiers and a border scurmer said took place there. Go back to 71. Another one took place over a few days. And again, in each, in each case, Pakistan was lost. In some cases, ground in 1971, there was that war with Bangladesh. So that's on the eastern part of India when they, when they divided

up the countries and after the Second World War, they left a part of Pakistan that was basically threw India to the right, let's say, to the east of India called these Pakistan. That's not called Bangladesh.

There's Harrison at a concert for the starvation of the children back in the 70s about it. Anyway, that civil war took place. It didn't make a lot of sense to have East Pakistan with India right in the middle of it. They won their independence. And again, in each time, the Pakistan military suffered a defeat.

I was heartened to see that the Prime Minister of Pakistan, who's a TV celebrity. How odd is that in a former athlete that he returned the Indian pilot to India or or said he was going to that.

Obviously, as a guy saying, let's not get crazy here. Right. I think in both cases, both you've got the the Indian Prime Minister as well.

Modi, their populist people, their role is coming up for election. I don't want to say they're, you know, Donald Trump like, but they're, they're not necessarily these career politicians.

They're new in the space here. They, they, you know, have tapped the will of the people, so to speak. And in both cases, if you risk gets out in front, both sides now have nuclear capability that clearly could destroy each other within Jesus' time of flight.

Given the fact they have weapons in India, it's got a little more complex nuclear program. They literally have a triad. They can deliver nukes from air land and see Pakistan pretty much air some intermediate missiles, mostly artillery based, nothing from the sea.

But again, the bottom line is because they're neighboring with each other. You'd have clearly mutually short destruction if something started, but your guess is cooling down rather than ramping up.

Right. And like anything else, you've got to find a way that both sides can save face in order for that to happen. Maybe just the fact that the Pakistanis were able to shoot down the two Indian aircraft and the fact that they captured them.

And maybe that's going to be the win that they're going to take. They're going to have an had one in about 20 years. And maybe that'll be good enough for them. And the Indians will take forth the fact that, you know, the fact that it didn't start a nuclear war with their neighbor over a region that they've been fighting over for the last 70, 80 years.

Hey, just for fun. And that's not the right term at all. If if Indian Pakistan did get into a war, would we stay out of it? Take a side. How would that turn out?

Oh, no, no, we'd have to stare clear out of it. I mean, it's nothing we could do on any level. I mean, we've got no kind of treaties with either side. We'd be in the sidelines watching them destroy each other.

Well, I was just going to put it that we're kind of wearing the striped shirt at this point, right? We're not choosing sides. We're saying, hey, everybody keep cool.

Right. And you see the beer from the bleachers being thrown right now. The fact that there's no US leadership in the world. And that's why this is happening. That's just nonsense.

I mean, these are countries that have got to get along. They've got a border. They got to figure out what they're going to put up. You know, there's got walls between these two countries that guarantee it.

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