Born into Scientology - Claire & Marc Headley Pt. 1 | Ep. 2065
Mormon Stories Podcast
Dr. John Dehlin
4.6 • 5.2K Ratings
🗓️ 22 September 2025
⏱️ 390 minutes
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Summary
Prepare yourself for an EPIC non-Mormon story! This week we are introducing Claire and Marc Headley, who were born into the Church of Scientology and have a remarkable escape story that we are excited to share with you.
Both Claire and Marc were members of the Sea Organization within Scientology, where the church’s elite-level leaders work and are required to sign a billion-year contract of servitude. During their time there, both worked closely with David Miscavige, the current leader of Scientology, and witnessed his brutality firsthand.
In this first part, Claire and Marc discuss the foundations of Scientology, what it was like to be raised in it, and how they came to join the Sea Org. They also share insider information on high-profile members such as Tom Cruise and John Travolta, and even address the mystery of what happened to Shelly Miscavige.
Then, join us on Wednesday for part two of this interview, where they share their incredible story of escaping the Sea Org and talk about their work with the Mike Rinder Aftermath Foundation.
So strap in and enjoy this stranger-than-fiction story!
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| 0:00.0 | What's it like to be born into Scientology? |
| 0:03.0 | Hi everyone and welcome to another edition of Mormon Stories podcast. |
| 0:06.0 | I'm your host, John DeLinn. |
| 0:08.0 | It is September 10th, 2025. |
| 0:11.0 | And today we have in studio two people who in effect were born into Scientology. |
| 0:18.0 | And not only that, they worked closely with David Mischavich and |
| 0:23.5 | Shelley Miskavich and worked at the highest levels of Scientology for many years, eventually escaped, |
| 0:31.0 | and since then have become advocates for helping others escape Scientology and heal and grow afterwards. |
| 0:38.9 | They've also been featured all over the place in lots of different venues. |
| 0:43.2 | But today we have joining us on Mormon Stories podcast, Claire Headley. |
| 0:47.1 | Hey, Claire. |
| 0:47.8 | Hello. |
| 0:48.5 | Thank you so much for having us. |
| 0:50.0 | Yeah, so glad to have you. |
| 0:51.4 | And we also have Mark Headley. |
| 0:53.2 | Hey, Mark. |
| 0:53.9 | Thanks for having us. |
| 0:55.2 | And y'all are co-hosts of the YouTube channel, Blown for Good. |
| 1:00.1 | Is that right? |
| 1:00.9 | That's correct. |
| 1:01.8 | And you also have a book, Mark, called Blown for Good as well. |
| 1:06.5 | Yep. |
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