This is the Libertarian Podcast from the Hoover Institution.

I'm your host Tom Church and I'm joined by of course Richard Epstein, the Libertarian.

Richard is the Peter and Kirsten Bedford Senior Fellow here at the Hoover Institution.

He's the Lawrence A Tish Professor of Law at NYU

and is a senior lecturer at the University of Chicago.

I Richard a busy week in immigration politics

or human trafficking depending on how you look at it or

characterize it.

Last week, Governor's Abbott of Texas and Desantis of Florida made news with their controversial

program of busing or flying migrants to Democratic sanctuary cities and states.

Now, Governor Abbott of Texas sent migrants all over to New York, to Washington, D.C. to Chicago, and thousands of migrants,

and most recently to the Naval Observatory in D.C.,

which is where Vice President Kamala Harris lives.

Desantis, I think, took the cake, though, and used public funds to fly migrants from San Antonio

to Martha's Vineyard, the epitome of a wealthy progressive East Coast enclave. Now the first thing I actually want to discuss about this Richard is that a

class action lawsuit was filed by 50 of the migrants that DeSantis flew from Texas to actually Florida

first and then Martha's Vineyard. The migrants alleged that they were dropped in an area

with no shelter or resources in place

and they went, they were told

that they would have jobs and rent fee places to stay.

So, Richard, can you walk me through what kind of trouble dissenters might begin here, if any at all?

We are on terror incognita. There is no place in the world which has ever had suits like this which has had to litigate.

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