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Badgermapping.com launched in 2013.

They're doing about a $5 million run rate today up from $4.2 million exactly one year ago,

serving 4,200 logos over 7,500 paid seats at about $50 a seat.

They help your field reps deliver the tires on time, take the beer to the local pub on time,

and also do it in a route that is most efficient.

They should have died during COVID. They didn't. They just pivoted. They did very well. Now they're

growing all bootstrapped, which we love. He's using debt, full disclosure from founder path,

which we love. Hey, folks, my guest today is Steve Benson. He's building a great tool called

Badger, like the Animal Mapping.com. It's routing, mapping, and gathering data from the field for field sales team.

Steve, you ready to take us to the top?

Let's do it.

Now, I hope you did it as a compliment, but like, I look at your business and I go,

this company should have died during COVID, but you didn't somehow.

Right, no one's going knocking on doors during COVID.

Everyone's locked up.

Why didn't you die?

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