Book Review: Careless People, Part 5 - When Immoral Political Aspirations Meet an Unprincipled Platform
High & Low
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4.8 • 585 Ratings
🗓️ 11 June 2025
⏱️ 76 minutes
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Summary
The journey of former Facebook/Meta executive Sarah Wynn-Williams continues as we review highlights and takeaways from Chapters 33-37. As Sarah slowly makes her return to work after a complicated delivery with her second child, her manager, Joel, maintains his dual status as the least likeable person in the book and as a cautionary tale for any workplace. The outcome of the 2016 election displays the undeniable power of Facebook/Meta in swaying perceptions and opinions to once again uplift any political underdog, for the right price. Coming to grips with that influence and connection to Trump's win in 2016 is something Mark struggles with, until he realizes that unbridled power could also enable any aspirations of his own. A chilling segment that ends with the author feeling sure of her intent to leave the company as soon as possible.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the high and low podcast. This is your host, Bravo, Bravo, |
| 0:08.1 | Dracking Bravo, and this is going to be careless people. Part 5. This book by Sarah Win |
| 0:14.5 | Williams' former Facebook slash meta executive, it is still blowing my mind. I never in a million |
| 0:20.0 | years thought that this book was going to |
| 0:21.2 | take me five, six parts to cover. But I also wouldn't have believed you if you'd said, hey, they're |
| 0:26.9 | going to talk about dirty Sanchez in this book. They're going to bring up random historical figures |
| 0:32.9 | that are a little bit startling and then also lewd sex acts. So I don't know what's going to happen with |
| 0:38.6 | this. I'm going to start with Chapter 33. The title of that is, do we have to go into this? This one I've |
| 0:43.1 | already read, but I haven't read beyond Chapter 33. So whatever happens after this is a surprise for all of us. |
| 0:48.5 | So Chapter 33 is starting with her saying, she's not doing well, bitch. Like she is still bleeding a lot months and months after giving birth. |
| 0:58.7 | Barely has the strength to go to the grocery store, barely has the strength to be taking care of a toddler and a newborn, has to sit down and rest. |
| 1:05.9 | She's weak. |
| 1:06.9 | Page 246, none of this seems to matter to Joel. |
| 1:13.9 | At this point, if I ever see Joel in the street, |
| 1:18.1 | he's getting cursed out. I'll recognize that angular head. What am I going to yell at? I'm going to yell out dirty Sanchez is what I'm going to yell out. Hey, Joel, you know any dirty Sanchez's |
| 1:22.3 | lately? For me, this chapter solidifies that Joel is just the worst. Okay, back to page 246. |
| 1:29.1 | None of this seems to matter to Joel. He knows full well that I'm still on maternity leave, |
| 1:34.2 | sick and on strong pain medication, and yet messages and emails from him and his assistant pile up |
| 1:40.8 | daily, to which I say, I'm pretty sure that's illegal. She continues, less than two weeks |
| 1:46.2 | after I'm discharged from the hospital, they set up a weekly meeting with me, to which I say, |
| 1:51.0 | I'm pretty sure that's illegal. And then, because he's in Washington, D.C., and she's in California, |
| 1:56.6 | these are video conferences. Quote, he starts to take them sprawled across his bed rather than in his office. |
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