Bonus! Why Lucy Hale is Swapping Her “21-Step” Routine for J-Beauty Minimalism and More Derm-Approved Skincare Tips with Dr. Jenny Liu
Breaking Beauty Podcast
Dear Media, Jill Dunn and Carlene Higgins
4.7 • 996 Ratings
🗓️ 17 April 2026
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Summary
Lucy Hale is here to share all of her skin secrets! In this special live BONUS episode recorded in partnership with Shiseido Talks, we dive deep into the world of J-Beauty with the “Pretty Little Liars” star, alongside the internet’s favourite board-certified dermatologist, Dr. Jenny Liu aka @derm.talk on Instagram.
From embracing Japanese-inspired self-care principles to unveiling the new Shiseido Benefiance collection that promises brightening results in two weeks (!), this intimate conversation explores how minimalist rituals are the real key to your skin’s healthspan – no “trends” required.
In this episode we discuss:
- Lucy’s beauty glow-up: How she traded the 21-step routine of her PLL days for the minimalist skincare vibe she swears by now.
- The "eye cream for 11s" hack: Dr. Jenny Liu (@derm.talk) explains why she uses eye cream on the lines *between* her eyebrows and how to actually protect your skin barrier.
- Aging in Hollywood: Lucy gets real about the pressure of growing older in the spotlight and the wellness trends that actually work — hello, fascia-release facials!
- The 14-day glow: Everything you need to know about Shiseido Benefiance and why Picao Preto is the natural retinol alternative currently on our radar.
- Rapid-fire round: Lucy reveals her ultimate comfort TV show and the exact ritual she uses to decompress after a long day.
- Christmas came early: What it was like reuniting with former co-star Ian Harding for “Twelve Dates of Christmas” scheduled for release later this year.
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| 0:00.0 | The following podcast is a Dear Media production. |
| 0:08.1 | Welcome to Breaking Beauty, the podcast, all about the breakthrough people, products, and moments in beauty. |
| 0:14.0 | We're your host, Jill Dunn and Carleen Higgins. |
| 0:26.3 | Welcome everybody today to this live episode of Breaking Beauty podcast. |
| 0:30.5 | I'm Jill Dunn, and this is my co-host over here, Carleen Higgins. |
| 0:31.5 | Hello, everyone. |
| 0:35.5 | And hello to our friends in the live audience today. |
| 0:37.1 | Thank you for being here, everyone. |
| 0:45.3 | Yes, and hello to our listeners at home. And for anyone new who's joining us, we are two longtime magazine beauty editors. That's how we got our start. And we are on the air every |
| 0:51.7 | single week talking about the breakthrough people, products, and |
| 0:54.7 | moments in beauty. |
| 0:56.9 | And we've been podcasting for nine years now. |
| 0:59.0 | Wow. |
| 1:00.0 | Yeah. |
| 1:01.0 | And it's an honor to be in New York with all of you and for this special collaboration |
| 1:06.3 | with Shasato Talks. |
| 1:07.6 | And we're going to be exploring skincare rituals and holistic beauty, the Shasado |
| 1:12.1 | way, which I love. And we have two very special guests joining us today. First up, I'd like to |
| 1:18.9 | introduce Dr. Jenny Lou. Hi, Dr. Liu. Hi. Thank you for having me. Such an honor to be here. |
| 1:26.0 | Very special. So great to see you. |
| 1:28.8 | And Dr. Lou is one of the most trusted voices in skincare education today. |
| 1:33.7 | She's a Washington-based board-certified dermatologist, adjunct assistant professor at the University of Minnesota Medical School. |
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