I'm Claire Fallon and I'm Emma Gray and this is Love to See It, an obsessively detailed

recap podcast about the bachelor and other pop culture that makes us laugh, cry and curse

the patriarchy. We can't live with these shows and we can't live without them, but we

can break down every juicy moment and unpack all the weird messages these shows send us

about love, sex and dating.

Welcome to another bonus episode of Love to See It with Emma and Claire.

We're back for part two of the sexiest, most prudish show on television. Too hot to handle,

of course.

We are joined by Kristen Meinser, host of Movie Therapy and by the book. Thanks so much for

joining us for this very important episode, Kristen.

Oh my gosh, thank you for having me here to talk about this very important show. I know

listeners at home cannot see this, but I did dress for the occasion. I am wearing a

skimpy bikini right now. You think I'm getting listeners, but I, because that's just how

important this is.

I mean, you're dedicated to the cause. And I appreciate that. Frankly, I feel bad

that I did not show up for the occasion. Like I didn't put my lashes on. I didn't do

my contouring. I mean, it's embarrassing, frankly.

You know what Lana would say? You're not committed to the process. She's right.

It's true. We've been shown up. We've been embarrassed. All I can do is try to speak

while holding my entire face as perfectly still as possible for this entire podcast.

And I think that will take me one step closer to being like a woman of the villa. And

that's all I can do at this point. I drop the ball. So we're talking today about episodes

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