I'm Claire Fallon and I'm Emma Gray and this is Love to See It, an obsessively detailed

recap podcast about the bachelor and other pop culture that makes us laugh, cry and curse

the patriarchy. We can't live with these shows and we can't live without them, but we

can break down every juicy moment and unpack all the weird messages these shows send us

about love, sex and dating.

Hello and welcome to Love to See It with Emma and Claire, a podcast about throwing shade

and whacking off. I'm sorry Claire, bleeping off. There are some things you just cannot

say on television. Have a little respect. I'm so sorry, that was my bad. Let's regroup.

Today in fairness, we are going to be discussing the taboo, the edgy, the underbelly of the

bright shiny image we usually see on the bachelor at as we get into the later stages of Kitty

Thirston's journey to find love.

And we're joined today by a first time guest, but someone whose other work we have so

long admired, Aubrey Gordon, also known as your fat friend. She's the co-host of the

Wellness Podcast Maintenance Phase and the author of what we don't talk about when we

talk about fat. Thanks so much for joining us Aubrey.

I'm so overjoyed to be here and to reveal myself as like a weird bachelor super fan.

I'm like just absolutely delighted to be here.

Love. We love when those come out of the woodwork. It's really beneficial to us. And we are

obsessed with your other work. So this is just like a really exciting moment for us and

for this show. We start strong really.

Yeah. Kaitlyn and Tasha are having a hard to heart with Katie who is like, thank you Tasha

for introducing me to your ex Blake. He is so great. I don't know why you threw him away

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