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That's kind of conversation to your soul.

That's conversation. To resolve. Thank you. Hello, to your soul. Hello, Prestige Heads, and welcome to American. I'm Danny Bessner here all alone today,

because Derek is off somewhere. He won't tell me. And I'm very excited to welcome back to the podcast today. Eric Schwartzel. Eric's a reporter at the Wall Street Journal, and he's also the author of

the excellent red carpet, Hollywood, China, and the Global Battle for Cultural

Supremacy. And I invited Eric to talk about China, the U.S., the film relationship, and how

things have developed recently, and much more besides. So, Eric, thank you so much for joining

me again. It's great to be back. So why don't we start with the beginning of the U.S.-China film relationship?

Because listeners might not be aware of how this relationship has developed over the last two decades.

But I don't know. Where would you like to start? We could start in the 1990s. We could start in the 2000s.

But this has been one of the most significant relationships that really helped to find Hollywood in the 2010s in particular,

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