Hi, friends. I have a special episode for you this week. I sat down with Valerie Homaker from

Latter Day Struggles podcast, and we recorded a podcast together about the impact of the talk

to the mothers in Zion by President Ezra Taft Benson and how it has shaped our development

and our faith. So I hope you enjoy it. And we'll be back with our

regular Ask Dr. Julie Hanks episodes next time. Hello, everyone.

Welcome to Latter Day Struggles.

And Ask Dr. Julie Hanks podcast.

We're doing this together, Valerie and Julie.

So Valerie and I met for dinner a couple of weeks ago. I reached out to her on

Instagram and said, we need to be friends. We definitely need to get together when you're in Utah.

And so we did. And one of the topics that came up was, as we kind of shared our life story,

was the commonality of this

talk in the late 80s to the mothers in Zion and how it has shaped or how it shaped our journeys.

And so we thought it would be fun to get together and talk about it. So I'm looking forward to this,

Valerie. I am too. And I have to say one of the first things that I loved about you, Julie,

was actually it was connected to this talk. So I'm going to actually tell everyone what the actual

conversation was because it was kind of hilarious. So we're getting ready to, we're sitting down,

getting ready to order. Something comes up up i don't even remember what we were

talking about but you said to me you said i am just like you got like this dreamy look in your eyes

and you're like do you know what i remember yeah go ahead you said i'm just so incredibly grateful i did

not follow the prophet yeah in that instance right like oh right? Like, oh my gosh. Yeah, I forgot.

I first thought, this is such an interesting, I can't wait to hear what she's about ready to say next.

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