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BONUS - The Debate: Should Leftists Vote for Joe Biden? (w/ Krystal & Kyle)

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News, Comedy, Politics

4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 11 September 2023

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

 
It was a thrill to join two of my favorite left political commentators -- Krystal Ball & Kyle Kulinski, of Krystal Kyle & Friends -- in a spicy debate about the core issue occupying much of the leftist discourse today: What is the value of voting in Democratic elections? Does voting third party support the growth of an opponent to the corporate duopoly? Or do the possible gains -- stronger third parties, a boost for ranked choice voting -- not outweigh the costs of helping Trump to get reelected? This discussion went on for over 90 min. You can find the first hour here for free. Subscribe at patreon.com/badfaithpodcast to for the entire debate. We go strong until the end: you wont want to miss it.

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Produced by Armand Aviram.
 
Theme by Nick Thorburn (@nickfromislands)

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. What? Welcome, everybody to a special edition, I'd say, of Crystal Kyle and Friends. Not only

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is a Crystal Kyle and Friends, it's also sort of like a dual thing going on. We got Breonna

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Joy Gray in the house, and this will be on her channel as well, the Bad Faith podcast. A little

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crossover episode. A little crossover episode.

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Love that for us.

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Definitely. Definitely. Looking forward to it. So we're going to discuss Cornell West's campaign and everything around that. And I just want everybody in the audience to know, because I don't know if we've said this publicly before, that like he's been invited on multiple times and he just hasn't come on yet. and you know this goes all the way back to when he launched we invited him on he hasn't come on yet and you know this goes all the way back to when

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he launched. We invited him on. He hasn't come on yet. Will he eventually, I don't know, you know, it's up to him. Balls in his court. Yeah, and we had him on before. We had him on before. Yeah, before he announced his campaign. I mean, we're going back to when the People's Party thing launched. We were, we invited him on all the way back then too and just haven't heard back or anything.

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But I just don't heard back or anything.

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But I just don't want people to think we're debating Cornell West, but like Crystal and Kyle are refusing to talk to Cornell West. We'd love to talk to Cornell West. We'd love to have him, you know, we'd love to have him on at any point in time to discuss anything and everything. So we're going to discuss his campaign a little bit here. So I want to lay out what my position is and then Brie, I'll turn it over to you and you can respond to it.

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And Crystal, you can jump in at some point and tell, say what your position is.

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We'll go through all the things.

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We'll go through all the things. So I want to lay out what my position is, and then, Brie, I'll turn it over to you, and you can respond to it. And, Crystal, you can jump in at some point and say what your position is.

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We'll go through all the things. We'll go through all the things. First of all, in the Democratic

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