It was a thrill to join two of my favorite left political commentators -- Krystal Ball & Kyle Kulinski, of Krystal Kyle & Friends -- in a spicy debate about the core issue occupying much of the leftist discourse today: What is the value of voting in Democratic elections? Does voting third party support the growth of an opponent to the corporate duopoly? Or do the possible gains -- stronger third parties, a boost for ranked choice voting -- not outweigh the costs of helping Trump to get reelected? This discussion went on for over 90 min. You can find the first hour here for free. Subscribe at patreon.com/badfaithpodcast to for the entire debate. We go strong until the end: you wont want to miss it.