Welcome to unfuck your brain.

I'm your host Kara Lowentile, master-certified coach, and founder of the School of New Feminist Thub.

I'm here to help you turn down your anxiety, turn up your confidence, and create a life on your own terms, one that you're

truly excited to live.

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Hello, my friends.

I am, as always, excited for my guest, but today's guest, I just saw her book come across

my Instagram, and I was like, oh my God, we have to talk. You, me, we need to do this. My people need to hear this. So today's conversation, I think, is like, it's going to be an antidote to a lot of what we see online and a lot of the sort of like unmanaged mind action is what I would call it. The polarization of like, I have a thought, all my thoughts are true. Anybody who doesn't agree with my thoughts is a moron and a terrible person. And I therefore should punish them, cut them out, never speak to them again. So I'm so excited to introduce Britt Barron. I'm going to have her tell a little bit about yourself. But I just have to tell you the title of her book, which came out this week. So you can get the book now. And obviously, you should all order it. We're going to talk a lot about it. But it has such a brilliant title. Do you still talk to grandma when the problematic people in our lives are the ones we love? Which I just love for even suggesting that you're allowed to love a problematic person in your life, which I feel like a lot of people online don't think you are. So will you tell us a little bit about who you are and how you

kind of came to write this book? Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for having me. I'm super excited to be here and

have this conversation. I'm Britt Barron. I'm an author, speaker. I spent a lot of my career in the DEI space, actually. So I've had

lots of conversations about liberation, justice, and found myself a few years ago wondering,

where is the room for nuance and all of this? It seems like something that needs to happen and

shift. And so the journey of my own life,

the journey of my work sort of led me to dive deep into some questions to look at what's

potentially on the other side of cancer culture. And this work in particular, exactly what

you described is the problem that I found myself seeing. And the title of the book actually came from

being at a dinner with friends. And one of our friends was saying who their grandma voted for.

And sort of after a loud gas, people were like, do you still talk to her? And she was like, my nana?

She was like, yeah. Yeah, I do. And I was like,

oh, we're canceling grandmas now. I think we need to have, I think we could have a more

involved, nuanced conversation here. And so just die fully into this work and into this conversation

for the past few years and super excited to be having conversations like this.

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