I'm Claire Fallon and I'm Emma Gray and this is Love to See It, an obsessively detailed

recap podcast about the bachelor and other pop culture that makes us laugh, cry and curse

the patriarchy. We can't live with these shows and we can't live without them, but we

can break down every juicy moment and unpack all the weird messages these shows send us

about love, sex and dating.

Welcome to a Love to See It, a bonus episode, you know, when in the course of Bachelor

events it just becomes necessary for a former bachelor rat to dissolve the bonds that

tire to the franchise and write just like a piercing heart-wrenching essay about the

racism she experienced during her time with the show and publish it in culture, you know,

we have to talk about it.

We just must, I mean Rachel Lindsay, the first black bachelor rat, also one time co-host

of the official bachelor podcast and constructive critic of the franchise officially kind of

stepped away this spring after the longtime host of the show Chris Harrison defended the

racist actions of a contestant on Matt James' season during a long and extremely disrespectful

interview with Rachel Lindsay on Extra.

Yeah, and she, you know, received a lot of racist backlash and harassment after this, after

Chris Harrison faced some very deserved consequences and ended up parting ways with the franchise

for which she was blamed and also collected and, you know, eight-figure check.

So, yes, well, she finally opened up about this whole experience and her whole time on

the franchise in this essay.

And today, we're joined by a very special guest, Erin Evans, senior national editor at

Hufffost, who used to be our editor at Hufffost and who we miss very much.

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