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Love to See It with Emma and Claire

‘Bachelorette’ S17e3 with Sharleen Joynt and Andy Levine

Love to See It with Emma and Claire

Claire Fallon, Emma Gray

Tv & Film

4.35.8K Ratings

🗓️ 22 June 2021

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Summary

Trigger warning: In this episode, we talk about sexual assault in the context of Katie’s discussion of it in this week’s episode of The Bachelorette. This discussion starts around 40:00.

If you or someone you know have been affected by sexual assault, you are not alone. RAINN’s National Sexual Assault Hotline is here 24/7 with free, anonymous help. Call 800-656-HOPE or visit online.rainn.org.

Welcome to Love to See It with Emma and Claire, a podcast about labor organizing in the entertainment industry.

It’s so difficult to unionize the Bachelorette contestants because of high turnover and the fact that they aren’t technically employees, but solidarity finds a way. Last night, not for the first time and hopefully not for the last, the show’s contestants tried to come together as one unit to meet management at the bargaining table.

It was a beautiful moment for unions, but also a brief one. Today we will chart the rise and fall of this Bachelorette union, which quickly fell apart once the men were made aware that they couldn’t negotiate to each have a full Katie.

We’re joined today by Bachelor alum, blogger, and opera singer Sharleen Joynt and her husband and cohost of their fantastic podcast, Dear Shandy, Andy Levine!

You can listen to Dear Shandy here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dear-shandy/id1525795747

Learn more about the Santa Ana Pueblo and their lands here:

https://nativeamerica.travel/tribes/pueblo-of-santa-ana and https://santaana-nsn.gov/about/

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm Claire Fallon and I'm Emma Gray.

0:24.7

And this is Love to See It, an obsessively detailed recap podcast about the Bachelor

0:29.1

and other pop culture that makes us laugh, cry, and curse the patriarchy.

0:34.2

We can't live with these shows and we can't live without them, but we can break down

0:38.8

every juicy moment and unpack all the weird messages these shows send us about love,

0:43.7

sex, and dating.

0:52.2

Welcome to Love to See It with Emma and Claire, a podcast about labor-organizing in the entertainment

0:57.6

industry.

0:58.6

You know, it's so difficult to unionize the Bachelor at contestants because of high

1:02.4

turnover and the fact that they aren't technically employees, but solidarity finds a way.

1:09.0

And last night, not for the first time and hopefully not for the last, the shows contestants

1:13.8

tried to come together as one unit to meet management at the bargaining table.

1:18.3

It was a beautiful moment for unions, but also a brief one.

1:22.2

So today we will chart the rise and fall of this Bachelor at Union, which quickly fell

1:27.2

apart once the men were made aware that they couldn't negotiate to each have a full

1:31.1

Katie for themselves.

1:33.0

Look, these are just the struggles we encounter while organizing for labor rights.

1:38.3

And it's a doggy dog world out there.

1:40.3

But today we're joined by some great guests.

1:44.0

We have the wonderful Charlene joint and Andy Levine.

1:48.4

Charlene's an old friend of the pod.

1:49.6

You all know her as well as a Bachelor alum, blogger, and opera singer, and Charlene's

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