Hey, this is Dere.

And welcome to Pots of the People.

This is a bonus pod that is dedicated exclusively to the event that I'm

folded in the past 48 hours in Charlottesville.

Where white supremacists came into the town of Charlottesville, came onto the campus of UVA

in an effort to provoke violence and to promote an ideology of hatred.

I have the governor of Virginia, Terry McCollough, on the podcast today.

He is rejoining us, as you know, he was on a couple weeks ago.

And then we have some incredible student leaders from UVA who have joined us as well.

So we have Devon and Wes, who are two leaders in the Black Student Alliance at UVA.

And then we have Daniel, who leads the NAACP chapter at UVA.

Let's go.

So now's my conversation with Devon and Wes, two incredible student leaders at the University

of Virginia, who lead the Black Student Alliance.

Wes and Devon, thank you both for being on Pots of the People.

I know that this has been a long 48 hours for you both and a trying 48 hours.

Thank you for joining in the midst of that.

Wes, I'll start with you.

Can you just help us understand what happened and what it was like to be on the ground in

the midst of all of it?

Right.

Well, first of all, everyone must be clear, this is a terrorist attack.

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