Welcome to a bonus episode of NerdCast. I'm Charlie Matessian. We're joined today by

Zach Montelaro from Politico Playbook. We're offering this bonus episode because

Zach and the playbook team here at

Politico Anna Palmer and Jake's Sherman had a sit down with Vice President Mike

Pence at the Republican retreat in West Virginia this week. We thought our

listeners might be interested in hearing

some snippets from that interview. Hey, Zach. Hey Charlie, thanks for having me.

Thanks for coming. I'd like to get your big picture takeaway. What you learned

from that interview, but first we learned a little something about his television tastes and I want to hear about that. Is he a Netflix binger, a Hallmark channel fan, sports fan, DIY channel, what does he watch?

Perhaps unsurprisingly,

Mike Pence is actually a big fan of C-SPAN.

The most animated we saw him when we interviewed him

was when we were talking about the State of the Union

and what his plans were after the State of the Union

And he went home and he turned it on he got very excited about it

Because I like the call-in thing

You're glutton for punishment? No, I really do. The first one... Nick, you didn't do that. No, we shouldn't say this on that.

No, I like C-SPAN. It's like public broadcasting.

Okay, not so surprising.

Zach, you talked with the Vice President about more than his television habits.

I know that's part of the conversation was about 2018.

What was your takeaway from that discussion?

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