Welcome to gender reveal, a podcast where we hopefully get a little bit closer to understanding what the hell gender is.

I'm your host and resident gender detective, Tuck Woodstock.

Hey, everyone. I hope you've all been hanging in there.

You might already know this, but every month we publish a new episode of gender reveal. And every month, we also publish a new episode of gender conceal, which is our monthly bonus podcast made exclusively for our Patreon subscribers. We do this to thank our Patreon subscribers because without them, this podcast couldn't exist. We get 95% or more of the funding

for the show from this Patreon. So sometimes for gender conceal, we interview someone who has

never been on gender reveal like Emma Spector or Gene Thornton. Other times we chat with good

friends of the show like Maddie Lubchanski, Mackenzie Grifler,

Nico Stratis, and our own producer, Ozzy. Last month on gender conceal, I had the great pleasure of chatting with my friend Mal Blum. Mal last spoke with us on gender reveal back in 2021.

And then we also spoke in the first year of gender reveal back in 2018 when we were both

little babies.

It really has truly been such a joy to see how Mal and I have been sort of growing on parallel

tracks over the last seven years. And I feel like that shines through a little bit in

our gender conceal episode that we put out last month.

So today we're going to share a few excerpts from that recent chat with Mal.

In this abridged version, you will hear us talk about how Brooklyn, circa 2010,

hurt Mal's relationship to masculinity, how media literacy may or may not be damaging people's ability to

understand a lyrical concept, and why Mal is putting he pronouns in timeout until you all

earn them back. You'll also hear a few clips from Mal's new album, The Villain, which by the way,

is out now wherever you get music and is

really genuinely so awesome. If you haven't heard it already, I hope you'll listen to it.

If you decide to sign it for gender conceal and hear the full hour-long version of this episode,

you will also hear Mal talk about new transmasters slurs, Gemini's, touring, and deciding how mean and messy to get in a breakup song.

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