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Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts

Bonus: Live From the ACLU

Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts

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News Commentary,, Government, News

4.63.4K Ratings

🗓️ 13 June 2018

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

Dahlia Lithwick moderates a discussion of civil rights and legal norms in the Trump era with the ACLU’s David Cole, president and CEO of the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, Vanita Gupta, former White House chief ethics counsel under President George W Bush, Richard Painter, and former US attorney for the Northern District of Alabama, Joyce White Vance.

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0:00.0

Hi, and welcome back to Amicus Slate's podcast about the law and the courts and the Supreme Court and other stuff.

0:13.9

I'm Dahlia Lithwick, and I cover all those court-like entities for Slate.

0:18.2

And today we are going to bring you a bonus live episode because I wanted to

0:22.9

share a discussion. I just had the honor of moderating at the ACLU's National Conference in

0:28.3

Washington, D.C. earlier this week. As you know, we've been widening the lens of the show to

0:34.7

occasionally discuss the troubling erosion of and threats to the rule of law, writ large in the age of Trump, and to courts and lawyers in the age of Trump.

0:44.7

And this discussion features some of really the very best legal minds in America examining just that question.

0:51.4

And when I say very best legal minds, I'm really not kidding around. The panel included

0:56.5

prominent constitutional law expert, veteran of many Supreme Court oral arguments, and the National

1:02.4

Legal Director of the ACLU, David Cole, former acting assistant attorney general and head of the

1:08.2

Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department and current

1:11.0

president and CEO of the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, Vanita Gupta,

1:16.7

eminent law professor at the University of Minnesota, and former chief ethics lawyer in the White

1:21.9

House of George W. Bush, Richard Painter. You may remember him from our emoluments conversations. And finally,

1:29.1

the experienced litigator and federal prosecutor, former U.S. attorney for the Northern District

1:33.9

of Alabama and current distinguished visiting lecturer in law at the University of Alabama,

1:39.4

Joyce White Vance. So it was quite a panel. And the conversation, I think, is so useful for folks who've been tracking these issues on this show. So it was quite a panel and the conversation I think is so useful for folks who've been

1:45.8

tracking these issues on this show. So enjoy. So I want to welcome you to this plenary panel

1:55.3

and I want to welcome amicus listeners who are listening disembodied also. And I want to just say how honored and thrilled I am to be

2:05.0

moderating this panel at this moment.

2:09.9

And I think I want to start with the lightning round panelists.

2:14.6

And I want to ask you a question that's been on my mind for the last couple of days

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