Hi, friends. Welcome to Ask Dr. Julie Hanks podcast. I'm so glad you're here. In each episode, I coach a listener through a tough question about mental health, personal growth, family relationships, or faith journeys. My goal is to help you think, feel,

or do something differently to improve your life because you listen to this podcast. I want you to step

into your power and create a life you love. Let's get started. So we're going to do with something a little different today on the podcast.

Usually we do that ask Dr. Julie Hanks a question, but I have some amazing guests that I'm

going to interview and ask a lot of questions to.

Welcome to Jill Dugger and Derek Dillard.

Thank you so much for having us on. Thank you. Glad to be here.

Oh, you're welcome. So happy to have you. I have been devouring your book. I have loved it and it just

resonates. I watched your show when you were, you know, younger and have watched the family drama play out,

you know, publicly. And I just, first of all, want to say how much I love the book and how

graceful you are in telling your story and how generous you are to all parties involved.

So I don't know that I would have been as generous as you.

So thank you for that.

Thank you.

In the first few chapters of your book, you talk a lot about little jilly muffin.

Did it get that right? right yeah and she was taught

that her body as a female was responsible for like protecting men from sexual thoughts um

if you could go back and talk to that little jillie muffin who received those messages about maybe that her body was

was bad or she needed to be covered up. What do you wish you could tell her?

Yeah, I think that ultimately we are each responsible for ourselves. So that is something that's

important to not overlook. We are responsible for

ourselves, but we're not responsible for other people's actions. And so as a child,

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