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It's somewhat of a surreal moment for myself to be introducing them, but obviously

we have

Margaret Beckett and Jackie Smith here they are absolute stalwart of the Labour Party

they are pioneers within the feminist movement of the Labour Party as well and I think

we're about to hear some fantastic insights into Jackie's new book which really histories some of the Honourable

Ladies that have led the way in Parliament up to now.

So Margaret, how did it get off the ground?

My co-editor is Ian Dale, who people will know as an LBC presenter, right-wing commentator, not a member of the Tory party

anymore, formerly managing director of Byteback Publishing and back in, we'd been friends for a while

because we were doing Sky newspaper reviews. I used to watch you. Thank you.

And so he had this, he had the idea, actually, to be fair to him.

Back in, I think, about 2016, when he said, of course, 2018 is 100 years since some women got the vote, and significantly for this, since women were enabled to stand for Parliament.

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