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10 Things To Tell You

BONUS: I Thought It Would Be Better Than This

10 Things To Tell You

Laura Tremaine

Society & Culture, Personal Journals

4.7930 Ratings

🗓️ 8 April 2025

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Over the last few years I’ve watched my friend, Jessica Turner, privately and publicly walk through her husband’s coming out and their subsequent divorce as well as her efforts to find her equilibrium in this new family dynamic. Jessica has done it all with grace and kindness and honesty, sharing her story with incredible strength and vulnerability. Her newest book, I Thought It Would Be Better Than This, chronicles this journey and the lessons she’s learned from it.


In this conversation, Jessica shares what it was like to navigate her own grief about the end of her marriage while also remaining a friend and ally to her ex-husband as he navigated coming out as gay. She shares how she was helped by journaling and therapy (two drums I will continue to bang all my days) and the rules she has for herself when it comes to sharing difficult and vulnerable things online. Jessica’s hard won wisdom is applicable to anyone dealing with disappointment. or who thought to themselves about their love life, career, parenting, or just adulthood...I thought it would be better than this.


Learn more about Jessica Turner

Follow Jessica Turner on IG

Buy her book (out now!) I Thought It Would Be Better Than This


Jessica's other books:

The Fringe Hours

Stretched Too Thin


Jessica's other appearance on 10 Things To Tell You:

Ep. 54: Best Books Lately with Jessica Turner

BONUS: How Influencers are making money off you. (a conversation with Jessica Turner)


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0:00.0

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0:27.7

Online charges may apply.

0:28.8

Apple's end April 14th. Welcome to the 10 Things to Tell You podcast. I'm Laura Tremaine. I always have at least 10 things to tell you. And you have 10 things to tell. This is a show where we believe that sharing

0:57.1

yourself will make you less lonely. Hello, my friends. Welcome back from our spring

1:05.2

break break. I had a wonderful few weeks of travel, which you might be able to hear in my voice right now,

1:13.1

but I am excited about the next several weeks of episodes that I have for you, starting with this one that has been a long time coming.

1:24.7

Over the last few years, I've watched my friend Jessica Turner privately and publicly

1:29.6

walk through her husbands coming out and their subsequent divorce, as well as her efforts to

1:36.8

find her equilibrium in this new family dynamic. Jessica has done it all with grace and kindness

1:43.7

and honesty, sharing much of her story with

1:46.8

incredible strength and vulnerability.

1:49.2

And she has a new book out about this season of her life, and it's called I Thought

1:55.4

It Would Be Better Than This.

1:57.2

And it chronicles this journey and the lessons that she's learned from it.

2:01.2

Now, I knew when it was set to release that I wanted to have Jessica on, 10 Things to

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