BONUS: Here's Our Interview With Jeremiah Johnson Of The Neoliberal Project
Blocked and Reported
Katie Herzog and Jesse Singal
4.6 • 4.1K Ratings
🗓️ 25 June 2020
⏱️ 61 minutes
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Summary
If you develop severe physical symptoms whenever you go more than a day without hearing fresh content that includes Katie's and Jesse's voices, you're in luck: Here's an interview the hosts did with Jeremiah Johnson of The Neoliberal Project (here's his Twitter account) which Johnson generously shared (it's also up on his own organization's Patreon page). It was a pretty wide-ranging discussion -- in addition to covering the David Shor firing and Washington Post blackface article, the trio also discussed cancel culture more broadly, the difference between real activism and online slacktivism, and the question of what standards tech companies should use for determining who to deplatform.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome everyone to another episode of the Neoliberal Podcast, part of the Progressive |
| 0:15.2 | Policy Institute. |
| 0:17.2 | I'm your host, Jeremiah Johnson. |
| 0:19.7 | Joining me today are Jesse Single and Katie Herzog. |
| 0:22.5 | They're the hosts of a new podcast locked and reported, which focuses on, in their words |
| 0:29.1 | I believe, online silliness and cancel culture. |
| 0:32.5 | So Jesse and Katie, welcome to the show. |
| 0:35.7 | Thanks for having us. |
| 0:36.7 | Yeah, thanks, man. |
| 0:38.6 | So this is an interesting subject to tackle at the current moment because there has kind |
| 0:45.4 | of been a rash of cancellations lately. |
| 0:48.8 | And I want to get into this from several angles. |
| 0:51.2 | I want to get into kind of the high level theory of like, what is cancel culture? |
| 0:56.5 | Is it a good thing in some way? |
| 0:58.8 | That's the right amount of canceling to do. |
| 1:00.9 | But then I also want to get into the swamp of like individual cases. |
| 1:04.2 | And like let's actually get into the muck and the details of some of the people who've |
| 1:08.5 | had some stuff go wrong recently. |
| 1:11.8 | But so as a first question, I guess I'll share how I think about this. |
| 1:16.1 | And you guys can tell me if you kind of come at it the same way or if there's a different |
| 1:19.3 | way that you think about this. |
| 1:20.5 | But when I think about canceling people, I think about this like almost like medicine for |
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