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A Donald Trump is designating Antifa as a terrorist organization, or at least so he says.

One of the problems is that Antifa really isn't an organization.

And I know that you can make the case that there are lots of loosely defined groups.

But Antifa really is even more loosely defined.

Like, you know, proud boys, for example, you could say, well, what's the designation really?

But proud boys is really much more of a group than Antifa, which is really at its core.

Anti-fascist.

Um, I don't need. I hesitate to even say organizers, Pat, because

it's like it's a very unorganized kind of movement.

Yes.

And it has been associated with people who aren't simply protesting, right?

People who are maybe more unruly or willing to use tactics

that mainstream leftists aren't willing to use. But to be honest, it's not even something

that crosses my mind all that often because they don't seem to be all that relevant in our

political space. The only relevance they have is the relevance that the right tries to

attribute to them. The other aspect to this that I think is important is if it were a designatable

group and Trump did designate it as such, what does that even really mean? Because the way that

we prosecute stuff is based on the actions and sometimes

intentions, right?

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