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9/19/25: Divisions grow and everything becomes a conspiracy

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David Pakman

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4.62.8K Ratings

🗓️ 19 September 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

-- On the Show:

-- Sarah Matthews, former Trump White House Deputy Press Secretary, joins David for a Substack Live

-- America is split between those who see change as belonging and those who see it as threat

-- Conspiracy influencers spin events like the Charlie Kirk shooting to erode trust in evidence

-- JD Vance jokes about civilian deaths after US strikes, treating loss of life as comedy

-- Marjorie Taylor Greene calls for a national divorce and says Republicans will not fix the country

-- Gavin Newsom mocks Donald Trump with a dementia jab after Trump spreads false claims about California

-- The Friday Feedback segment

-- On the Bonus Show: Kamala says she didn't pick Buttigieg for VP because it was "too risky," and much more...

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(00:00) Change seen as threat or belonging
(07:36) Conspiracies eroding trust
(12:34) JD Vance jokes on civilian deaths
(18:51) Marjorie Taylor Greene on national divorce
(25:58) Gavin Newsom mocks Trump
(33:23) Sarah Matthews joins Substack Live
(53:46) Friday Feedback

 

Transcript

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0:00.0

The United States is divided and I think arguably as divided as ever.

0:13.5

Many people agree on the division part, but the harder part is figuring out why.

0:18.8

What is the line that cuts this country essentially in half? And there

0:22.9

are a lot of really bad answers. I want to tell you what I think is the primary way in which this

0:28.3

country is divided. But for example, you sometimes hear, well, this is a country divided on race.

0:35.7

On the one hand, you have people who say it's racism that is dividing the country.

0:40.1

On the other hand, you have some racist people who say races are just too different. We can't live

0:46.1

together in harmony. But the point is you will often hear it is race that is dividing the country.

0:50.6

Now, of course, racism is a real thing. Racism shapes lives. But race doesn't

0:58.4

explain a nearly 50-50 divide in this country. And we've seen Latino and black voters

1:04.1

shifting towards Republicans. We've seen plenty of white voters in big cities voting for Democrats.

1:10.1

So the picture on race just isn't really

1:12.1

that clean to say this is the division in the United States. Well, what about class? You have a lot

1:18.4

of class reductionists and just people more broadly who say socioeconomic status class. This is really

1:25.1

the dividing line in the United States.

1:28.1

Usually it's rich versus working class.

1:30.7

But the numbers just don't really add up on that.

1:33.1

Most of the country is working or middle class and they're split right down the middle politically.

1:38.5

The rich are too small a slice to explain the entire deadlock and divide of this country. So then sometimes you'll

1:46.9

hear, well, it's a religious thing. It's atheists versus believers or it's even, you know,

1:53.3

you've got white evangelical Christians that lean one way and is Catholic, Jewish, Muslim, different

1:58.8

types of Christians. But you kind of have the same problem, which is that that doesn't really explain in a substantive

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