Bonus: Fr. Richard and Greg Boyle Reflect on Lives Committed to Loving Action

Everything Belongs: Living the Teachings of Richard Rohr Forward

Center for Action and Contemplation

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8 • 723 Ratings

🗓️ 13 June 2025

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

What wisdom emerges when contemplative action meets radical compassion? In this special bonus episode, we step outside the chapter-by-chapter rhythm of Richard Rohr’s final book, The Tears of Things: Prophetic Wisdom for an Age of Outrage, for a rare and intimate conversation between Fr. Richard Rohr and his longtime friend Fr. Greg Boyle. Together, they explore the soul of the book and the spirit of this moment in history. Fr. Greg, founder of Homeboy Industries and author of Cherished Belonging: The Healing Power of Love in Divided Times, joins Richard and CAC staff member Paul Swanson for a profound dialogue on everything from the death of Pope Francis and the surprising emergence of Pope Leo, to the themes of humiliation, humility, and radical belonging. Together, they reflect on the journey from order to disorder to reorder, offering insight into how love acts in the world, especially among the most marginalized. Fr. Richard and Fr. Greg Boyle embody the very message they share: that transformation is always possible, and that love, when lived, is the greatest force for healing in our divided world. The transcript for this episode can be found here

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0:00.0	You're listening to a podcast by the Center for Action and Contemplation.
0:04.0	To learn more, visit cac.org.
0:07.6	Oh my gosh, my friends, welcome back to the Everything Belongs podcast, the podcast where we live the
0:14.4	teachings of Father Richard Roar forward.
0:17.4	As you know, each season of Everything belongs, we take one of Father Richard Roar's cherished books, and we go through it chapter by chapter.
0:28.7	First heading over to his hermitage, sitting down with him in his living room, and just having a conversation about that particular chapter,
0:38.5	then inviting a guest from the outside to have a conversation with us
0:43.6	so that we can ask new questions and apply it to new situations and gain new insight.
0:49.5	Now, this season has been very, very special because we are exploring Father Richard's newest,
0:57.4	and he claims very last book, The Tears of Things.
1:02.1	If you can believe it, we are about halfway through our exploration of this amazing book.
1:08.8	Last episode, we talked about Chapter 4, Welcoming Holy Disorder,
1:14.7	how the prophets carry us through. We got to talk to Jungian psychologist Connie Zweig in one of my
1:21.2	favorite conversations. Next month, we will be talking about Chapter 5, Jeremiah, the patterns that carry us across.
1:30.9	We have an amazing conversation with Richard, one of my favorites.
1:34.4	I know I say that every single time, but it's really true.
1:36.7	And then we'll be talking to Dr. Walter Fluker.
1:40.2	I cannot wait for you to hear that.
1:42.7	But before we go there, there's so much happening in the world
1:47.2	right now. The world is on fire. We had the passing of Pope Francis and the appointment of a new
1:53.6	pope in Pope Leo. The Tears of Things debuted at number two on the New York Times bestseller list,
1:59.6	and there's been so much interest.
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