we are. How are we doing? We are not well. But like also happy. Like I, I'm so happy. I've been in so

many chat groups with this show and like the overwhelming reaction of everyone. And it's all

of them are people that have been romance readers for a long time. Wait, of them. Wait, should we introduce ourselves, Fram?

Oh, should we do that? Or should we just jump in? Like, we assume this is just a conversation we haven't had it for the last. I was like, you are putting it live on yield internet. So. Yes. You start, Jen. I will start. I am Jennifer Procop, the co-host of the Fated Mates podcast, a romance novel podcast. And so we're going to talk about romance today. I'm Joanna and I am a romance writer and I'm Shane and Ili's adopted mother. I don't know.

Yeah, they're moms for sure. Yeah. Oh my God know. We are their moms, for sure.

Oh, my God. Yeah, I'm Joanna Shoup,

historical romance author. He did rivalry Stan. Not as long as

Adriana, but pretty close

to the beginning. Yeah.

The students surpassed the master in this one.

Although I think I came back.

Like, I think you, like, were more tuned to the development of the show updates.

I don't think I locked in until right before the shout came out.

I think I lost my mind when I saw the trailer.

Yes.

I was real skeptical. And then I saw the trailer and it was like, oh, we're on. Like this is happening. See, what's so funny. So everybody is like famously, I'm not a TV watcher, right? Like I joke. I'm like, I watched one show a year. And so everyone, and I watched three this year, which is like really weird for me. I watched Reacher and Murder Bot in the show. I also was like, oh, has it been a book I read? I guess I'll watch her show. So like the fact that I not only like watch this show, but have, as you said, seven different group chats. I'm a total fan girl is completely wild. That's how, right? Like, I mean, like, we're really coming to it from way different. Yeah. Like, even, like, TV watching praxis. Yeah. And we're big, too. And I mean, Ron and I have, like, shows that we have had this, like, she and I are both very big Gilded Age fans since the first season came out.

And we check in with each other when the season's on.

But, I mean, I think the thing with the show is that it's actually,

someone said, I think it was like Ira Madison.

It's been really interesting to see gay men who are like culture critics.

Like people that I have you know have

followed for a long time kind of like become into romance in this way because really they are

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