You're listening to a bonus episode of On the Tape, and we thought this was important to do.

Just a little bit of background.

I met Rebecca Jarvis about 16 years or so ago in Englewood Cliffs at the headquarters of CNBC.

And although other people might have been first to the Theranos story without question,

I think she's been the leading voice and she's been tireless in her work literally now for years. So we wanted to have her on as sort of

the epilogue of the story, Danny Moses. Yeah, Guy, I wasn't as lucky as you were to have known her

that long, but you did make the introduction to her for me. And I was involved in her GameStop piece,

which was a story obviously about what happened with GameStop and AMC, et cetera, early last year.

With this, I mean, she knew about Theranos as early as 2014 when she was working on just

blood testing companies and she'd heard about this company. I don't think she had claimed

there was fraud at that point, but she was aware of it early.

She started doing this podcast called The Dropout in early 2019 and stuck with it. Last episode was episode 19 all the way through. And I will tell you, and she'll talk about this, obviously, in the

episode, but she was one of the people even during the trial, and maybe that's because she had

followed it for so long that actually thought she was going to be found guilty. And she was correct. I mean, she was guilty on four counts of

fraud. Three of the other 11 counts were deemed to be mistrial. And the other four fraud, which really

had to do with the patients, she was found not guilty. So what's interesting now, and we'll hear this

from Rebecca, obviously in this interview, is what comes next? The Sunny Balwani trials coming next and we won't

get a sentencing until after that is done. So a lot more to play out here, but excited to talk to

her obviously now and fresh off of the heels of this verdict. For me, this speaks to, and I'm sure

Rebecca will have some thoughts on this as well. This speaks to money free-flowing, people not doing their due diligence,

the emperor has no clothes, all those things come into fruition in all walks of life. So not only

in necessarily politics, in some ways in sports, but this is happening right before our eyes

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