Hey everybody, Jeff Gluck here, and I wanted to bring you a special podcast edition this week on the Teardown Feed.

A conversation I had with Samantha Bush recently.

As you probably saw, she recently authored a book called Fighting Infertility, Finding My Inner Warrior Through Trying to Conceive IVF and Miscarriage.

It's gotten well received.

It has 4.8 stars on Amazon, 4.6 out of 5 on Goodreads, and 5 out of 5 on Barnes & Noble.

The book is about their infatility struggles, and they recently had another one after the book came out,

where Kyle and Samantha Bush had come out to Colorado and gone through the whole process again, done a transfer.

And as she documented on her social media, they thought briefly that for a time that it was

going to work and then it ultimately did not work and was another very disappointing heartbreaking setback for them.

She took a break from doing some interviews after that for a little bit, but I recently got to

speak with her about the book.

And what I really wanted to get at, as you'll hear in our conversation, is how to talk to

your friends who are going through this.

Probably if you're like me, you maybe have a lot of friends you know or family members

who have been struggling with infertility.

Maybe you don't know how to bring it up or talk to them about it.

I know I don't.

I'm really bad at that.

So I thought I'd ask Samantha about that and here's our conversation.

All right, everybody, I'm here with Samantha Bush.

And Samantha, thank you so much for doing this. I'm really excited to talk to you about this because I honestly have a lot of questions,

and I feel like you can help me. So that's, thank you. Of course. I'm excited to talk today. It's been a while.

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