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today we've got a bonus episode and it's spurred on by a segment on Rachel Mad-Out that went

very viral wherein Trump has signaled that he's not even interested in garnering votes anymore

and that's largely owed to the fact that there are already election deniers

in positions of power who can refuse to certify elections across the country.

There's probably never been a segment that's led to more outcry, more emails, more requests for me to dig in.

So I sat down with Justin Glau, the author of the Rolling Stone article on which Madhouse's entire

segment was based, and with Voting Rights Attorney Mark Elias, who served as a primary source for Justin.

So I've compiled both of these discussions for you here again in this special episode of No Lie.

By now you've all seen the Rolling Stone article, the one that inspired that

chilling clip from Rachel Maddow titled these swing state election

officials are pro-Trump election deniers. But I said there's a lot going on at the surface level

in terms of donors and campaign positions

and campaign strategy and the way they're behaving in public.

There's a lot that is weird about this

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