BONUS EPISODE PREVIEW: The Theological Tricks of TM w/Pat Ryan

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🗓️ 3 February 2023

⏱️ 7 minutes

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This is just a preview of our exclusive Patreon bonus episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a supporter at: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Patrick Ryan is a graduate of Maharishi International University and a former Associate teacher of Transcendental Meditation who has been a cult intervention specialist thought reform consultant and exit counselor since leaving TM in 1984. Mr. Ryan is the founder and former head of TM-EX, the organization of ex-members of Transcendental Meditation. He was the editor of AFF News, a news publication for former cult members from 1995-1998. Pat has contributed to the Cult Observer, AFF’s book, “Recovery From Cults”, and is co-author of "Ethical Standards for Thought Reform Consultants," Mr. Ryan established ICSA's online resources and also facilitated ICSA workshops for ex-members and families where he has lectured extensively on cult-related issues, covering a wide range of topics including; hypnosis, trance-induction techniques, communicating with cult members, cult intervention assessment, as well as thought reform consultation and more. Mr. Ryan received the AFF Achievement Award, The Leo J. Ryan "Distinguished Service Award" and a Lifetime Achievement Award from ICSA. He currently resides in Philadelphia, PA where he runs Cult News 101 and works as the co-founder of Intervention 101 with his longtime co-worker Joe Kelly. In this conversation between two longtime friends and colleagues, Pat recalls how he first met Rachel and how her invitation to him to speak at The Jewish Federation's cult clinic helped outline the intervention practices he uses to this day. Pat goes on to share his experiences at Maharishi University explaining the deceptive practices of the Transcendental Meditation teacher's courses and the theological tricks they employ to keep followers from questioning their teachings. Thanks so much to our Patreon supporters for making this episode possible! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

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0:00.0	Thanks for tuning in to our bonus episode preview.
0:10.2	This is just a short sample of this week's exclusive Patreon episode.
0:15.9	You can hear the episode in its entirety by becoming a member at patreon.com slash indoctrination, where you'll gain
0:24.4	access to all of our exclusive episodes and merchandise.
0:35.7	So today I have my old young friend.
0:40.0	I mean, we've just been friends for a long, long time.
0:42.7	And you are a really good friend, a very supportive friend and always watching out.
0:48.0	For me, for others who you care about in this field, and I'm sure outside of this field too.
0:53.5	And it's been great to know you as someone
0:57.1	who knows so much about this field and also has his own history and also when we get to do
1:03.2	exit counseling, some interventions together. It's really, really exciting. I love working with you.
1:08.1	And you've also been a guest on the show in the previous time. So
1:12.2	welcome back to the podcast episode as a bonus episode, my friend. I remember the first time I met
1:19.4	you. We were actually working at the Jewish Federation in New York. And you asked me to come up and
1:25.4	give a talk. And I was like, okay, what am I going to say?
1:30.6	That was like in the late 80s, were you there? That may have been the early 90s when I was living in
1:35.2	New York. And as part of my job at the cult hotline and clinic there, I was the clinician
1:41.6	and also ran support groups, but they asked me to put together a
1:44.7	Speakers Bureau of people who were former members, people who were specialists, people who
1:49.8	they themselves wanted as part of their healing to talk about their experience. Yeah, so I was
1:55.9	asking you as one of the experts to come and share what you knew. Yeah. And so in preparation for that, I wrote this handout,
2:04.2	and it was things that you shouldn't ask yourself.
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