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And he was accusing me of wanting to take my mom away from him and also accusing me of snooping through his things, which I didn't.

But because he said that, it made me question what is he trying to hide.

I'm sitting in the office of a man who prosecutes murders for a living. His name is Matt Murphy. He's a veteran assistant district attorney who handles homicides out of Newport Beach, California.

The homicide case that landed on his desk in the summer of 2016 was particularly violent and it was unique in his experience.

Hello and welcome to Real Crime Profile. This is Jim Clemente, retired FBI profiler, former New York City prosecutor and writer producer on CBS's Criminal Minds. And with me today in the studio is Lisa Zambetti, casting director for Criminal Minds where Jim Clemente is my beloved colleague.

And today we are missing our beloved Laura Richards who is in London and it's about three in the morning where she is right now, so she'll be with us next time.

But we do have a very special return guest in the studio and that is Chris Gofford Los Angeles Times. How you doing Chris?

Great to be here, thanks.

Great. And how long have you been with the Los Angeles Times?

Ten years, ten years before that I was at the Daily Pilot and the St. Petersburg Times in Florida.

Can you just tell us why you got into investigative reporting?

I like telling people stories and my specialty now is long forum narratives. Last year I did a six part series called Framed about a bizarre case out of Irvine.

And I tend to spend six, seven months on a story doing hundreds of hours of reporting. And this one I think is stranger and more compelling than any of the previous stuff I've done.

Right. And of course we're talking about Dirty John.

That's right. But first we're going to, where did you go to journalism school? It was on the East Coast, right?

I didn't go to journalism school. I got an English degree from Cornell.

And I'm really glad you did become a journalist because this Dirty John series is amazing. And we have so much to talk about.

We've already covered episodes one through three last time. And so if you don't want to be spoiled for the rest of the series, four, five, and six, then please go listen to them now because we are going to talk about them in depth.

Yeah. So how does it feel being a podcaster on top of being a reporter for the Los Angeles Times?

It's a lot of fun, but it's been a challenge trying to learn to write in a way that is easy on the ear.

I tend to like longer sentences with a lot of dashes and a lot of commas. And I'm learning to fix that.

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