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How To! with Mike Pesca

Bonus Episode - 'Hello Monday' with Jessi Hempel

How To! with Mike Pesca

Peach Fish Projects

Education, How To

4.32K Ratings

🗓️ 7 July 2020

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

This bonus episode features Charles's recent appearance on the podcast Hello Monday, where host Jessi Hempel discusses the relationship between work and meaning. Charles tells the story of his experience attending Harvard Business School and all that followed after. It turns out that a paycheck - even a fat one - doesn't buy a meaningful life. Charles and Jessi dig deep on the perks and pitfalls of business school, point up the importance of perseverance, outline the space between a job description and the job itself, and challenge listeners to make meaning in any job.

For more advice from Jessi Hempel, check out our previous episode 'How To Find a New Career Before it's Too Late.'

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi everyone, I'm Susie Weiss, and I've noticed there's just simply not enough podcasts in the world. So I'm launching my own. Let's go. Let's go, baby. Second Thought is a weekly show about pop culture. The stuff everyone's been binging, arguing about, obsessing over. Here's the thing about heated rivalry. I mean, even the most devoted swifties, I think we can agree, not our best work. We'll be hosting thoughtful conversations with culture's most important figures. Talk about genius.

0:22.6

Talk about generational talent.

0:23.7

Coming to headphones near you on

0:25.0

April 17th with a first guest you won't want to miss. Available wherever you get your podcasts.

0:30.2

Hey, how-to listeners, it's Charles Duhigg. We are on summer schedule at how-to, which means that

0:35.5

we're appearing every other week during the hot months of the year.

0:39.1

But as a special bonus for you, we've got an extra episode.

0:42.6

I appeared recently on Hello Monday with Jesse Hemple, who you might remember was recently

0:46.5

on How Too, and we wanted to share that episode with you.

0:50.0

So, here's Jesse Hemple and Hello Monday.

0:54.6

From the news team at LinkedIn, I'm Jesse Hempel.

0:58.0

And this is Hello Monday, our show about the changing nature of work and how that work is changing us.

1:04.0

My guest today is Charles Duhigg.

1:06.6

Charles is a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist and a best-selling author.

1:10.2

He also hosts a Slate podcast called How To with Charles Duhigg.

1:14.8

And you should check out all of his work.

1:16.5

But here's what you need to know for today.

1:19.8

Charles went to Harvard Business School.

1:21.9

Not so long ago, he attended his 15th reunion, and he wrote about it for the New York Times.

1:27.8

You know, HBS is supposed to be a golden ticket.

1:30.7

You get in and you've got a straight shot to the kind of career that turns you into a happy mogul.

1:36.2

Wealthy, influential, a queen of capitalism.

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