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How To! with Mike Pesca

Bonus Episode - 'Hello Monday' with Jessi Hempel

How To! with Mike Pesca

Peach Fish Projects

Education, How To

4.32K Ratings

🗓️ 7 July 2020

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

This bonus episode features Charles's recent appearance on the podcast Hello Monday, where host Jessi Hempel discusses the relationship between work and meaning. Charles tells the story of his experience attending Harvard Business School and all that followed after. It turns out that a paycheck - even a fat one - doesn't buy a meaningful life. Charles and Jessi dig deep on the perks and pitfalls of business school, point up the importance of perseverance, outline the space between a job description and the job itself, and challenge listeners to make meaning in any job.

For more advice from Jessi Hempel, check out our previous episode 'How To Find a New Career Before it's Too Late.'

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey how to listeners it's Charles Doeighig. We are on summer schedule at how to which means that we're appearing every other week during the hot months of the year

0:08.7

but as a special bonus for you we've got an extra episode I appeared recently on hello Monday with

0:14.5

Jesse Hemple who you might remember was recently on how-to and we wanted to share

0:18.8

that episode with you so here's Jesse Hemple and Hello Monday.

0:25.0

From the news team at LinkedIn, I'm Jesse Hemple.

0:28.0

And this is Hello Monday, our shell about the changing nature of work

0:32.0

and how that work is changing us. My guests today is Charles

0:35.7

Doohig. Charles is a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist and a best-selling author. He also hosts a slate

0:41.9

podcast called How-Toe with Charles Doohig.

0:45.0

And you should check out all of his work.

0:46.7

But here's what you need to know for today.

0:50.0

Charles went to Harvard Business School.

0:52.0

Not so long ago, he attended his 15th reunion and he

0:55.2

wrote about it for the New York Times. You know, HBS is supposed to be a golden ticket. You get

1:01.0

in and you've got a straight shot to the kind of career that turns you into a happy

1:05.1

mow-go-go-

1:05.9

wealthy, influential, a queen of capitalism. So Charlie figured his peers would be pleased with their lives, right?

1:15.0

He found something else.

1:18.0

Many, many people had achieved kind of the top-level goals that they had wanted to achieve, but a lot of them were kind of miserable.

1:27.0

You heard that right. They were unhappy, not because things hadn't worked out for them, but because things had worked out exactly as they had planned.

1:36.0

And it led Charlie to wonder, and me too, what leads to a fulfilling career?

1:42.0

And I'll just acknowledge the privilege that goes into getting to have an economically lucrative job,

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